To all my followers who don’t give a damn about religion: sorry for the long text posts XD We’re having interesting conversations about matters of faith and respect tonight. You can totally go right ahead and skip those XD I’ll still blog metal and vikings and generally fangirl, as usual ^_-
Anonymous asked: heri's a dickweasel about religion, but i don't think his lyrics are necessarily not heartfelt/just for money. he's talked about how, as a scandinavian, paganism and vikings & such are part of his cultural heritage. i've always felt hold the heathen hammer high & stuff are set in 'the past' rather than 'the present,' the same 'past' as tróndur í gøtu & regin smiður dunno if that makes you feel any better, but i really don't think he's using pagan imagery as *just* a cash grab.
Dickweasel. That made me laugh~ Thanks already for lighting up my mood~
In all seriousness tho, I understand your point. I admit that the money grab mention might have been taking things too far without proof. You’re right on that. I was very worked up when I wrote my initial response ^^”
I will say, tho, that we can’t ignore that folk metal has been all the craze in the past, let’s say, 10 years. First it had a huge wave of popularity in Europe itself, which then dimmed (as folk metal artists have stated, including Finntroll in a recent interview that I can source if you want) as the genre became extremely popular in America in the past few years. Not to make a bad analogy, but folk metal in the 2010s in America is like nu-metal was at the end of the 1990s and the start of the 2000s. It seems quite easy, at the moment, for European bands to become international and grab the American market with folk music and pagan/mythological themes. Put a Mjolnir on the back of a band shirt and it’ll sell. I’m just keeping this in mind and wondering if TYR’s themes and use of heathen symbols might have been encouraged by the fact that folk metal’s booming right now. Just putting that idea out there ^_^ You don’t have to think I’m right at all ^^ I’m thinking while writing here.
I can totally see why, let’s say, a TYR shirt with the Mjolnir in the back (as I own) can refer to the past you talked about, and what the heroes of the past would’ve worn. That’s very logical, and a good point ^_^ Then again, I still have a problem with some of their merch that is blatantly about heathenry in the present day. Mainly the “Convert” shirt. If it’s not about the money and not about heathenry in the present day, then don’t put out merchandise that says to convert to paganism.
In any case, my original message about the issue was a lot more about Heri disrespecting heathenry while he wrote and sang about it. I totally get the distinction between the historical past and the present you brought up, but please hear me out:
Here’s a personal exemple: my cultural heritage is christian. I live in French Canada, a christian French colony for a big part of it’s history. All through the first half of the 1900s, my province was entirely dominated by the christian church. Inhabitants of Quebec lived by the church and for their religion. It took a revolution for them to get out of this domination, and that only half worked since even to this day, there’s debates in my province about the secularism of the state. I was brought up in a catholic family. I was put in a catholic school where nuns taught the classes. Throughout each day for 12 years of my life, I’ve been taught of christiniaty. I am now an adult and a practicing heathen, and I present as such, both by the symbols I wear and the values I live by.
If I came to this blog and wrote non-stop, for years, (because TYR’s mythological themes have been present for 10+ years) posts about christiniaty; if I wrote about christian pride; if I wrote about the glory of god and jesus and other christian figures; if, for a large number of posts (just like Heri wrote a lot of songs), I wrote of the bible and glorified passages of it; if I did all of that while still maintaining my identity as a heathen and presenting as a heathen, then that’d be wrong. And if hundreds of Christians discovered my blog, came to read it regularly, encouraged me; if what I wrote meant the world to them (as TYR fans might have felt); then if they found out about the fact that I’m actually a heathen and that I think “believing in christianity is ridiculous” (as Heri said in the interview), then sure, they’d be upset. They’d have every right in the world to be upset, because I fooled them by writing about themes that I don’t fully respect even if they’re part of my culture, and glorifying stories and figures that I deeply don’t believe in. You see what I’m trying to say here? Even if christianity is my cultural heritage and what I learned in school, it’s still doesn’t feel right to me.
I don’t know if I’m clear ^^”’ It’s late, I’m sick and I’m upset, so I might not make a lot of sense XD Sorry for that ^^’ But thank you for the message, it did make me reconsider my position, and that’s great! ^_^ I like thought-provoking anons!
I think everybody would be upset, if they found out that the music and the lyrics that meant so much to them were never heartfelt, but just something to make money with.Yes indeed. I think so too. Thank you for the support ^^